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The Fintech Marketers and Leaders Podcast
Financial Education & Building for the Self-Directed Investor with Amberly Jones, Head of Growth at Frec
Direct indexing. Tax-loss harvesting. Capital gains strategy. Sounds niche, right? Not anymore.
In this episode, Amberly Jones, Head of Growth at Frec, breaks down how they’re making a traditionally exclusive wealth strategy—direct indexing—accessible to a wider audience. From tackling financial education to layering in a light-touch sales team (yep, in a FinTech!), Amberly shares how her team is building trust, scaling sustainably, and carving out a space in a seriously crowded market.
👉 If you’re into product-led growth, niche go-to-market strategies, or just love a good “fintech underdog story,” this one’s for you.
Key Takeaways:
- Direct indexing is having a moment — and Frec’s bringing it straight to consumers (no advisors required).
- Financial education is baked into Frec’s growth strategy, with whitepapers, deep content, and a long game mindset.
- Paid ads didn’t work — but borrowed trust did. Communities, influencers, and smart partnerships have been key levers.
- Not every growth team adds a sales layer. Frec did. And it's been a game-changer for conversion and customer confidence.
- Frec’s product roadmap = more control for investors. From flexible portfolio allocations to long/short strategies, it’s all about giving users more power.
- Knowing your ICP isn’t enough. Frec is laser-focused on verticals like doctors, lawyers, and tech pros who match both persona + portfolio.
Talking Points:
- Making Direct Indexing Actually Work for Real People
Amberly breaks down how Frec is removing the typical barriers—like high fees and advisor-only access—to give more people access to a strategy that used to be locked behind a private banker’s desk.
“Even my high-net-worth friends didn’t know what direct indexing was. That’s when I knew education had to be central.”
- Education First, Ads Second
When performance marketing flopped, Frec doubled down on in-depth content:
- Whitepapers
- Webinars
- Deep dives on capital gains strategy
Short-form ads couldn’t explain the product — so Frec ditched them (for now) and leaned into channels that could.
- Borrowed Trust = Smart GTM
Frec’s growth isn’t happening in isolation. Instead, they’re tapping into communities and influencers who already have credibility with their target audience. Think:
- Reddit subcommunities
- Verticals like “Finance for Physicians”
- Professionals talking to professionals
“We’re not just building brand trust. We’re borrowing it, where it already exists.”
- Yes, They Added a Sales Layer — and It Works
In an industry obsessed with product-led growth, Frec went the other way. They introduced a human layer to help users fund accounts and navigate the complexity.
“It’s not pushy. It’s educational. And it’s doubled our conversions.”
- What’s New on the Product Front
- Portfolio allocation tools
- Treasury yield and margin loan products
- Long/short indexing (coming soon)
- Considering crypto tax strategies
“Everything we build puts more control back in the hands of the investor.”
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